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Other Worlds Writer's Workshop
Tenth Anniversary Revised Rules
On our ten-year anniversary, we evaluated what did and didn't serve our needs in our old
rules and updated them, incorporating member feedback and the admins' experience
over the years. We wanted to make the participation requirements the
least burdensome we could while encouraging useful feedback. The oldest and most
basic tenets remain:
- Crit more than you sub
- Give thoughtful analyses
- No flames
The biggest changes in the new rules involve types of crits. Unlike most workshops, we allow members to post entire novels at once. This
means that the extremely long wait times encountered elsewhere are eliminated;
however, we do differentiate between short story and novel crits. Check out the Overview
here to learn more.
OWWW is a fun and lively place to be, and you will be astonished at the level
of feedback you'll get. It comes from asking for, and getting, a high standard
for critiques. Many of our members are published who were not before they came
here. We are a community with many members of years' standing. Come
on in and get to know us.
SECTION I: Member Behavior
To remain members in good standing, all OWWW members must:
- Crit six times before subbing anything of their own
- Crit or sub at least twice each month as a minimum
- Take note of the 2:1 rule (crit twice as much as you sub)
- SIGN ALL POSTS with your first and last name. No email handles,
no nicknames. Don't assume the admins know who you are. Improperly signed
posts will not count for participation credit.
- Leave all Subs up for at least 30 days before stopcritting or
posting a rewrite. Not everyone has time to instantly leap onto your post and
crit it.
- Never post crits to Files
- Specify the type of crit desired when you sub
- Participate! Members who crit exclusively for years will be
bounced. Likewise, members cannot sub exclusively. Members who do neither will be
bounced in a few months. We expect all members to be writers as well as
readers, and lurkers are not welcome.
What We Expect
- No flames, no sniping. If someone is annoying you, please tell the admins immediately,
not after weeks of harassment.
- If you hate a genre or a piece, don't crit it. It's really not our job to
eradicate some genre or other by pointing out how stupid it is. It is our
job to help our fellow authors build the story they want to make, not the
stories we would write. No one is required to critique any one piece.
- We ask you to crit the story, not the writer, or the politics, or the
philosophy in it, unless it's flawed as world-building. If you just can't
handle the setting or point of the story, don't crit it, since you likely
not a buyer in the intended audience. If you hate romances, you're probably
not the best judge of whether a sub hits the requirements for the genre or
not.
- We are not here to be clever at someone else's expense. People
get cut from the list if they can't stop being unpleasant.
- Thank-you notes for crits are a nicety everyone appreciates,
even if it's a post to the list where you thank all seven critters by name.
Please don't send thank-you notes to the list unless discussing specific points of
the crit.
- We expect activity every month from members. If you don't sub
or crit for two months, you will get axed the third. Discussion posts
(DISC), Reference posts (REF), and shortcrits don't count toward
participation credit.
- You should keep track of your own credits and debits: the admins, while
brilliant, really can't do it for fifty to a hundred people for all eternity.
SECTION II: Critiquing
Overview
Because you are required to crit before subbing, we will cover that first.
If you are uncertain how to begin critting, we suggest reviewing the Turkey City Lexicon to discover what you should cover in your analysis.
In general, all crits should cover the basic elements of plot, characterization,
pacing, tension, hook, denouement, worldbuilding, etc. It is well to point out
authorial quirks in the writing as well, such as overuse of a pet phrase,
passive voice, wordiness, and the like.
Here at Other Worlds we look for in-depth rather than the quickie
"postcard" crits found on some many other workshops. Such crits will
most likely be deemed "shortcrits" and will not count for credit. With
that said, there are a couple of different ways to critique:
- Overall analysis with line crits: usually applied to short stories
- High-level analysis without line crits: applies exclusively to novels
Now then, let us be clear. When you crit a novel, you are agreeing to crit
the WHOLE novel. You may not sub chapter by chapter; you may not crit chapter by
chapter. To get a valid analysis of the plot and the relevance of every
character to the novel as a whole, you must read the entire book, otherwise you
are guessing at how things fit together, and that is not helpful to the author.
Likewise, detailed line critting of a first-draft novel subbed to see if the
plot hangs together is just a waste of everyone's time. You can point out
egregious writing habits, but breaking out the blue pencil is premature.
Short stories, synopses, and works in progress (WIPs) are all subject to
high level analyses. However, you can also add line crits to these if you
choose. We will disallow full-novel crits that are nothing but line edits.
We suggest you read
"How
to Do a High-Level Crit" in Files at Yahoo/OWWW, in Suggested
Reading for a better idea of what constitutes an overall analysis of a story or
novel.
You earn critique credits in this
fashion:
Short story = 1 credit
WIP = 1 credit for each 10k words critted
Synop/3 = 4 credits
Novel = 1 credit for each 10k words critted
Our intent in treating crits of
novels differently is to eliminate the tedious
chapter-by-chapter method of critting novels found on most other workshops. You
can sub the entire novel, and in return, get a critique that takes into account the
entire story arc instead of one tiny piece of it. Doing an in-depth analysis of
a novel instantly gains you the right to sub your own novel of the same length.
Shortcrits
Very short or shallow responses, i.e.
"postcard" crits, get shortcritted. Attaboys, that are basically
"I like this!" make the writer feel good, but they aren't crits. We post them, but they don't count for credit.
The best way to avoid being shortcritted is to read “Avoiding Shortcrits”
in Suggested Reading at the Files section of
OWWW/Yahoo. If you really can't find anything wrong with a piece, post a shortcrit yourself just to let the author know your general impression.
Posting Crits
- Never post them to Files. They will be removed without credit.
- All crits must be posted to the list either via email or directly by using the Post function at Yahoo. Keep individual emails to 4000
words or less. That means a 7000-word crit should be posted in two parts (we
get five parters).
- All crit posts must have a subject header of CRIT in the email to the
workshop, i.e. CRIT: StoryName
- Do NOT put your name or the author's in the subject line; it
gets confusing.
- DO put your full name (first and last) at the top of your crit: Crit by:
My Name. This ensures that the admins can properly give participation credit
at the end of the month.
- DO put the word count of the piece you are critiquing, so the admins
can properly assign credits.
- Always change the headers before hitting "Reply".
Improperly labeled posts may be missed by the admins and not properly
counted.
- Make sure you intended this email to go to the entire workshop,
because it will. Don't join the Red-Faced Brigade.
SECTION III: Subbing
You must
always specify the type of crit you want if you are submitting a novel. If you
feel you need detailed line-critting of every chapter, say so.
Otherwise you will get a high-level overview.
What Constitutes a Sub
A sub (submission, work submitted for critique) may be one of the following:
- A finished short story or novella draft
(anything under 20k words)
A finished novel draft
A WIP novel
(25k chunks of your rough draft with all the bark on)
An S&3, synopsis and three chapters. This proposal type is
the way most unsolicited mss get solicited, therefore almost as
important as the actual mss. You can also post your cover letter for
critique.
In addition we allow related materials to be posted to the Files section in
your novel's folder, such as maps, glossaries, and other materials directly
related to the work. You may ask for crits of these which will not count against
your subbing credits.
Sub Credits
- In order to submit your own work, the general rule is 2 crits per
sub
of the same type crit you're asking for. You can't crit two short stories and blithely drop your whole novel to the list.
To sub your own work, you must have completed your initial six
credits, which earns you a short story sub. After that, you will need:
Short story = 2 crit credits
WIPs = 2 credits for each 10k words subbed
Synop/3 = 8 credits
Novels = Crit credits equal to the words subbed. If you have critted a 100k
novel, you are entitled to sub a 100k novel. This is in recognition of the
time and thought required to critique an entire novel. Be aware that we
expect really good crits for this consideration.
counts the same as four short stories or
line-edited chapters.
WIPs must be subbed as:
- Continuous chunks of narrative, not a chapter here, a couple more
there
- The first sub of a WIP must be at least the first 25,000 words We
want to see things to which the writer has commitment.
- That same WIP (even under a new title) can only be subbed WIP
again when considerable work forward has been made, including
some revision based on the previous crits. No posting and polished the
same three chapters forever.
Submitting Your Work
- ONLY the following formats are allowed when subbing work directly to Files:
HTML
TXT
RTF
All other document formats will be deleted. The three listed are
universal and readable by most PCs.
You MUST post a .txt version of the file. If you want to submit .rtf
or .htm version with the formatting preserved, you can post that as an
auxiliary file, but you must post at least a
text version.
Check out our Formatting Tips page if you don't know how to sub a text
file.
- The workshop must be notified that you have posted a SUB
or it could languish in Files unread forever. Send a
message to the workshop properly labeled as SUB: Storyname (word count, genre, chapter #)
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Within the body of any sub, begin with:
Follow it with any warnings (graphic sex, language, etc.).
- When critting, snip out all portions of the original sub on
which you are not directly commenting. This reduces word count and makes it
easier for the writer to find your comments. Clearly mark your comments like
this:
>original sub text<
Your comments
after a blank line
Stopcrits and Revisions
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All submissions must be left up for 30 days minimum to give people a chance to
work a crit into their schedule.
WIPs left up over 3 months will be deleted to encourage forward progress,
unless it has not received many crits.
Short stories should be up no more than 6 months.
Novels should consider the same limit. Ask for help early on.
To pull a submission out of consideration or to post a revision:
- Post a message with STOPCRIT: StoryName to the workshop if your
sub has hit the time limit or acquired sufficient crits (5-6 is usually
sufficient). It's polite to
indicate that you'll accept any crits in progress.
- Pull it out of Files. Do not put "Stopcritted" in the
description or file name; just remove it.
- Revised subs count as new subs. Do not post a revised version
until at least 30 days after you removed the previous version.
SECTION IV: Other
Other Subject Headings
The use of the DISC heading should be used for all general-discussion posts not
related to a particular sub or crit. Discussion posts should be limited to
topics related to writing, not social chat.
DISC is a way to ask a critter for clarification or additional help. It
should not be used negatively. If you have more than one critter on a piece,
then DISC [Title] [Critter Name] should be used in the subject line.
WAHOO! is to announce a sales/placement you made, and later to announce that the
work is available. Do not WAHOO to announce that you finished a draft or a
chapter, or that you get to go to WorldCon. WAHOO signals sales or publication.
ADMIN indicates a special notice from the admins. If you have anything to say
back, change it to DISC, because you are not an admin, and are not entitled to
use it.
REF is a way to signal to the list "I need some tech help, or bouncing
ideas around." Do not use something like "REF: Need help." Duh,
REF said that. Instead, tell people *what about* so the folks with the answers
open it up:
REF: new FTL methods
REF: Food Storage w/o Refrigeration
REF: Dragon Physiology
REF: Broken Legs Sensation & Healing Time
REF: Climate Without A Sun
Etc.
We have some astonishing minds here, and we mostly love discussing this sort
of thing.
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